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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #30 Online: Julho 16, 2009, 20:38:49 »
Vou dar minha opinião. Só que ao invés de comentar detalhes como o caso especifico do tópico, ou detalhes como o atual caso sarney, sim, um detalhe, porque igual este caso sempre tem algo acontecendo, vou tentar falar do todo e não do caso especifico.

Ha alguns seculos, pelo menos uns 3, o homem discute o seguinte:
Na nossa organização como sociedade quanto vai ser responsabilidade do Estado, quanto vai ser por conta da própria sociedade civil? Até onde vai o Estado até onde vai a socieade emm termos da nossa responsabilidade sobre nós mesmos e nossa organização?

Desde Platão até maquiavel, robeespierre, hobsbrown etc a discussão é essa. Em toda Europa, nos USA, em todo canto as sociedades procuram este equilibrio.

Na Suecia por exemplo, um país considerado modelo, paga-se horrores de imposto mas em contrapartida, ensino, segurança, saúde, justiça, cultura, etc etc, o Estado sueco fornece com ótima qualidade.

No Brasil, o Estado é carissimo, aproximadamente dos 30 dias do mês, todos nós sem a menor excessão trabalhamos uns 13 dias pro estado, 40% dos nossos rendimentos viram impostos muito dificeis de serem sonegados pois estão inclusos no consumo e nos serviços. A contrapartida é zero, não só eu não recebo nada mas tambem todos os miseraveis a minha voltam recebem $%&! de serviços. Um estado caro, corrupto e imcompetente.

Bem, dito tudo isso a solução seria simples, menos impostos, estado brasileiro desinchado, deixa o governo cuidar do basicão, judiciario, guarda das fronteiras, um ou outro serviço inerente ao estado e o resto deixa por conta da sociedade civil. Eis ai o grande dilema.
A sociedade civil brasileira é tão corrupta e egoista quanto o governo. Gosta de falar estas asneiras que aqui escreveram sobre direitos humanos, linchamento etc mas aposto que todos aqui que escreveram essas coisas pouco se lixam pra educação do filho da doméstica que vai fazer faxina na sua casa. É o roto falando do esfarrapado. Este é o dilema que me faz crer que este país jamais mudará.
Voces ficam indignados com os direitos humanos se preocuparem com o bandido mas eu afirmo que nenhum de voces fica realmente indignado com criança de rua, porque se ficasse tomava uma atitude POR CONTA PRÓPRIA, REAL E CONCRETA

Esae tipo de opinião de pseudo direita conservadora reflete apenas o carater egoista da classe média e alta brasileira que não faz parte do governo e acha que só o Sarney é corrupto.

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #31 Online: Julho 16, 2009, 21:48:07 »
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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #32 Online: Julho 16, 2009, 22:17:25 »
Ou seja..Musashy estava certo mesmo....

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #33 Online: Julho 16, 2009, 23:29:50 »
Ou seja..Musashy estava certo mesmo....

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Pior que no caso do Brasil, talvez sim.

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #34 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 04:13:04 »
a culpa é da classe média que paga pelo que não é feito e ainda tem que pagar de novo pra fazer por ela mesma.


CLARO!


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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #35 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 09:34:24 »
Concordo, não só nesse tópico, como em outros, mas está mais para o SASAKI KOJIRO, pela ARROGÂNCIA, presente em alguns tópicos.
“O propósito supremo do KARATE-DO não está contido na vitória, nem na derrota de adversários, mas, no aprimoramento do caráter, da personalidade e da honra de seus praticantes."

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #36 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 10:18:16 »
o que o Sensei sasaki tem a ver com isso? Nao entendi....
KATSUMOTO-Prof. Roberto Sant Anna

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #37 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 14:07:07 »
sasaki kojiro é o antagonista no livro do musashi

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #38 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 14:16:18 »
o que o Sensei sasaki tem a ver com isso? Nao entendi....
Sensei Roberto, não me referi ao Sensei Yasuyuki Sasaki, seria muita burrice de minha parte, refiro-me ao Samurai SASAKI KOJIRO, que foi um dos duelantes do Samurai Musashi,Sasaki Kojiro, era conhecido e aclamado por sua arrogância, e foi o mais importante adversário que Musashi enfrentou em seus duelos, ocorrido  na Ilha de Funashima ( fonte  livro dos cinco elementos).
Atraiu grande multidão apesar da proibição,pois só seria permitida  a presença,além os duelantes é claro,somente testemunhas
Oss!
“O propósito supremo do KARATE-DO não está contido na vitória, nem na derrota de adversários, mas, no aprimoramento do caráter, da personalidade e da honra de seus praticantes."

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #39 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 15:49:45 »
Camaradas...
Essa chacina que ocorreu na Paraíba, foi em um bairro da cidade que eu moro (João Pessoa).
Pude acompanhar isso de perto.
Mas o dele está reservado.
Primeiro os presos vão fazer ele de noiva, e o noivo é um cabo de vassoura.

"Somete os fracos esperam por justiça"

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Re: Retratos de um POVO PRIVADA!!!! Parte 2
« Resposta #40 Online: Julho 17, 2009, 21:00:55 »
Camaradas...
Essa chacina que ocorreu na Paraíba, foi em um bairro da cidade que eu moro (João Pessoa).
Pude acompanhar isso de perto.
Mas o dele está reservado.
Primeiro os presos vão fazer ele de noiva, e o noivo é um cabo de vassoura.

"Somete os fracos esperam por justiça"


Esse é o unico alento que a gente pode esperar nesse país...
Mas não podemos esquecer que o cão fez isso tudo com a ajuda da cadela... Os dois deviam ser queimados, pois como disse Pedro Sensei "o fogo purifica"
"Só sei que nada sei" (Sócrates)